So until noon.
After sending the women around to disperse, the two of them ate together in a small restaurant, Chen Qing turned to the topic: "As soon as the news of Jiangnan Interactive Entertainment's refinancing was released, a group of people came over. They had a huge appetite. Boss, I also regret it. what to do?"
Simon ate the lamb chops in front of him without raising his head and said: "I've reminded you many times to keep a low profile. Now this is called self-inflicted pain."
Chen Qing groaned and said in frustration: "I really didn't mean it this time. Boss, you value that game so much, so of course I have to give you the best conditions. Who knows, the market reaction will be so intense. I'm already in It has shrunk, and recently it has limited the number of point cards flowing to the market. In addition, several chain Internet cafes we control have also been fully upgraded. You have to swipe your ID card to register to enter. Oh, I really didn't expect it."
Simon once again thought of the "Legend" in the original time and space.
At his peak, Chen Shoufu earned an average of 10 million yuan a day just by relying on one game. Even many years later, in mainland China, various "Legend" derivative games can still bring dozens of dollars to operators and copyright holders every year. billion in revenue.
In the final analysis, there is still a lack of entertainment activities in China.
Since the 1980s when the economy began to recover and grow, just for fun, it has led to the boom of a large number of entertainment venues such as song and dance halls, game halls, video halls, billiard halls, etc. Many people have made a lot of money by operating these entertainment places. Later, further primitive accumulation took place.
Now, as we are about to enter the new century, the online games that Simon has promoted and developed in mainland China have become one of the most profitable.
Recalling this, Simon did not forget to ask Chen Qing: "What you just said, how much does someone want?"
Chen Qing raised three slender fingers and shook them: "Thirty percent, this is after I have eliminated some requests that can be rejected."
Simon remained calm and asked: "Is it worth it?"
Chen Qing understood what her boss meant. If she gave away the 30%, could she get the benefits she deserved? She nodded directly: "It's worth it."
Simon said decisively: "Then give it."
Chen Qing grimaced again: "Boss, I feel bad. According to your original calculation, a batch of seeds we have sown now may grow into tens of billions or even hundreds of billions of US dollar giants in the future. Now give away 30%. It's simply That’s $30 billion.”
Simon shrugged: "The problem is that we all know that if we don't give away the 30%, we may not have even 10% left. You know, there are only two kinds of people in this world who can live well, and one is to break the rules. The other kind of person who can achieve success is, more easily, the person who strives to adapt to the rules. In China, we can only adapt to the rules."
Chen Qing could not refute.
In fact, she was still thinking about whether she could push out the Paradise Online that someone in Hangzhou was responsible for to block part of it. However, even if she had differences with Lin Su, she knew after all that these were her own things. Now pushing out a shield could It's not bad to protect others for the time being.
After thinking about it, Chen Qing said: "Boss, I'm thinking about whether we can promote these companies to be listed in the United States as soon as possible. As long as they are listed, there will definitely be scruples in China about what actions they want to take."
"You all know that you have scruples. Don't others know that you do this to make them scruples?"
Chen Qing listened to her boss's somewhat convoluted words, calmed down, and frowned slightly in distress.
Simon smiled: "Do you know what is the most important thing I have done in recent years to expand the Westeros system?"
"what?"
"Restrain your greed and try not to take too much," Simon said: "This is actually why the Westeros system has the current size, but it has not caused a fierce rebound from the traditional wealth forces. On the one hand, I have opened up On the other hand, in other aspects of expansion, I try to only take what I can afford, rather than eating everything without leaving any room."
Chen Qing nodded to express understanding.
"In China, I remember telling you, 30%. For many industries, we only need to get 30% of the benefits, because after all, the Westeros system is just an outsider, and it has no ability to break and create its own According to the rules, we can't be greedy too much. This time Jiangnan Interactive Entertainment, even if we give away another 30%, including the 20% we gave away before, we can still guarantee about 50% of the shareholding, which is already a lot." Simon After saying this, he showed a somewhat joking and weird smile: "This time it is definitely not aimed at financing Chinese state-owned enterprises, right?"
Chen Qing nodded, noticing her boss's smile, she had some inexplicable understanding, but couldn't catch it for a moment.
Simon continued: "You just said that 30% of Jiangnan Interactive Entertainment's shares may be worth 30 billion U.S. dollars in the future. I am very confident about this. Then, the problem will arise. 30 billion U.S. dollars is justifiable for someone like me. For capitalists, it is nothing, but for some people, a wealth of more than 240 billion yuan needs to be carefully considered. As the saying goes, it is a crime to harbor a treasure. Such a wealth may be hidden It won’t be a secret to ordinary people, but it will definitely not be a secret to some people at the same level, and there may be something good to watch by then.”
Jiangnan Interactive Entertainment is not just about games.
Although only the game department is currently making money, there is also the search engine business that Chen Qing personally obtained from Yigrit China, plus portals and e-mails, etc., which together with the game will develop into a business worth hundreds of billions in the future. There is no problem at all for US dollar-level technology giants.
Chen Qing blinked her eyes, then blinked again, then showed a somewhat evil smile, but quickly shook her head: "Boss, this person who wants shares, I mean... I'm afraid it's not suitable."
Of course, Simon also knew what was inappropriate and said: "Let's do everything we should do, don't worry about it, split 30% of the shares, and set up some in tax havens such as Hong Kong, Switzerland and the Cayman Islands." Shell companies, as for how to deal with them in the future, that has nothing to do with us. We only need to ensure that we can get 30%. You have to know that in my personal opinion, the scale of China's new technology industry will not be larger than that of the United States in the future. The difference may be in the trillions of dollars, 30% of which is already a very huge wealth."
Chen Qing did not raise any objections this time and nodded seriously, but still asked: "Boss, what about the issue of listing? I mean, no matter what, being able to be listed overseas will always be better for ensuring the safety of our shares." a little better?"
Simon shook his head: "First of all, if a company can generate enough revenue and profits, it would be better not to go public, because going public will definitely involve many regulatory issues. Secondly, we cannot change the issue of asset security in China. Rules, but it does not mean that we do not have any countermeasures. I have given the benefits that should be given, and if someone goes too far, I will not be polite. Therefore, it does not matter whether it is listed or not, now that we have a partner , of course, everyone must agree to launch the IPO. In short, we take what we can get, and then make money by being harmonious."
After having such an in-depth conversation with her boss, Chen Qing felt that she had gained a lot of clarity. Although she still felt uncomfortable because she was petty at heart, she would definitely not make any arbitrary decisions this time.
Simon looked at Chen Qing's expression and felt relieved.
Otherwise, he has been considering reducing this girl's authority during this period to prevent her from overdoing it in more aspects.
After taking a few sips of the mushroom soup next to him, Simon turned to other things: "How's the merger between Lenovo and Joyo going?"
Chen Qing drank the soup in sync with her boss. Hearing this, she put down her spoon and said, "I'm stuck. Heh, he's just waiting for us to sell our shares in Jiangnan Interactive Entertainment. Since the boss nodded, there's no problem." "
Simon nodded and said: "OEM manufacturers have only become more prosperous in recent years. After the merger is completed, we will start to slowly cash out until we leave the market completely. By then, the capital market should also understand that the majority of profits in the PC industry will still be there after all. In the hands of giants such as Microsoft and Intel, which own core property rights, OEMs only earn hard-earned money."
Chen Qing listened to this and thought of one thing: "Boss, speaking of this, why didn't you agree with Joyo to use the iOS system jointly developed by Yigrit and Tinker Bayer? Even if Joyo pays more, we are sure Is it acceptable, and can it increase the market share of the iOS system?”
After Tinker Bayer ate Apple, he collaborated with Igret. With the support of Apple operating system patents and years of continuous Linux system research, they jointly launched a new iOS system, but only licensed it to Tinker Bayer's iMac series. above. This surprised and disappointed many PC manufacturers who were dissatisfied with Microsoft and wanted another choice, and even Microsoft itself, which was facing a formidable enemy.
Seeing Chen Qing ask, Simon said: "This involves some other layouts of the Westeros system in the field of technology. In addition, of course, there is another point, because the Westeros system is also a major shareholder of Microsoft, and the current shareholding ratio remains at At about 15%, it has surpassed Paul and is second only to Gates. Therefore, when Microsoft already accounts for more than 90% of the PC operating system, there is no need for the Westeros system to launch an operating system war."
Chen Qing still didn't quite understand: "Why is it not necessary, boss? It's only 15%, and we don't have enough say."
"Because if the war is really launched, another war of technological change may be coming before it is over."
"Another war?"
"Have you ever used an iPad?"
Chen Qing nodded. She was very smart and had enough understanding of the electronics industry. She quickly understood: "Boss, you mean, the field of handheld terminals?"
"Yes," Simon said: "The main purpose of our owning iOS is to prevent Gates from launching unfair competition against the core technology companies of the Westeros system through the advantages of Windows. Moreover, in order to prevent us from developing iOS with all our might, Microsoft must For us to have certain technological openings, probably, it would be like the relationship between two nuclear powers."
Chen Qing nodded again, but still couldn't help but said: "But after all, it's better to hold the platform in your own hands."
Simon said: "On the PC platform, iOS has lagged too far behind. If we force a war, the best result is probably to share the market equally. However, the result of the war must be that both platforms use their full strength to improve themselves. , the result is that when the next handheld terminal operating system revolution comes, Microsoft, which is still highly motivated and has improved its system to a very outstanding level, is likely to have the same combat effectiveness in the new field. By then, it will be difficult for us to have Too much head start.”
Chen Qing now fully understood, with a bit of a naughty smile: "What does the boss mean, is that we voluntarily give up the competition of PC operating systems, so that Microsoft will slack off and die in comfort?"
"Bingo!"
"The boss is so awesome."
"Stop it, don't want me to slack off just because of your flattery."
"hehe."
Microsoft's defeat in the mobile Internet era can be summed up in eight words: born from sorrow and died from happiness.
Life was too easy and comfortable, and naturally I lost my ambition to make progress.
In comparison, Apple in the past was undoubtedly a typical example of being born out of worries. It was defeated by Microsoft in the PC era and had to find new breakthroughs in the cracks of barely maintaining itself.
Inside the restaurant.
The conversation between the two continued, and the topic turned to CNOOC, which was in the second half of its IPO preparations.
Although the new year has just begun, the official issuance of the euro has already given rise to many things, such as the recent anxious production reduction negotiations between OPEC and Russia. As a result, the negotiations have not yet broken down, and oil prices have continued to fall.
For ordinary people, the lower the oil price, the better.
However, from an industrial perspective, there must be too many people who do not want oil prices to be too low. The production reduction negotiations between the two major energy giants are also to avoid excessive production capacity from impacting oil prices. At the same time, each wants to sell more crude oil.
It seems contradictory, but after all it is for profit.
Similarly, for a Chinese energy giant that is seeking to go public, once oil prices continue to fall, the result will undoubtedly be a dampening of investor confidence in related industries. Because the plummeting oil price will inevitably mean a decrease in the profits of energy companies. After all, the demand for energy in the corresponding market is constant in the short and medium term, but there is no such thing as small profits but quick turnover. If prices plummet and sales volume does not change much, profits will inevitably decrease significantly.
Therefore, the prospect of CNOOC’s IPO is increasingly uncertain.
Since China did not seek cooperation with the Westeros system again as it did during China Telecom's overseas IPO, Simon and Chen Qing only discussed it this time and still maintained a bystander attitude.