As far as Christopher Nolan himself is concerned, he has no special liking or dislike for Renly, nor does he have any special pursuit or rejection, he is completely an ordinary actor.
Like Christopher's refusal to use his cell phone and email, he doesn't know anything about social networks and the new generation of stars. The "knowing nothing" mentioned here means that he has never heard of his name, he has never seen his face, and maybe even the other party is crowded by a large group of fans, and he does not understand why.
What Taylor Swift, what Kristen Stewart, what Chris Hemsworth, what Justin Bieber... He doesn't have any idea.
The same goes for Renly, for Christopher, this is an actor who is "always mentioned in Hollywood", he didn't know Renly won the EGOT, he didn't know Renly made history at the Oscars, he never even I've seen Renly's work. Not for Renly's individual circumstances, but his habits:
A guy who lives in the nineteenth century and tinkers with movies. That's how Emma Thomas describes her husband, and it's shared among Hollywood insiders.
Therefore, Christopher does not have an accurate and clear concept of whether Renly will appear in "Interstellar". On the whole, he is optimistic about Renly.
reason
There is only one: age.
Seems like a good choice if Renly played the teenage Tom; but Cooper? Age numbers are an insurmountable gulf—although, with Hollywood makeup at its peak, Renly's interpretation of a man in his early thirties would be fine.
But in Christopher's view, there is a question: why is it so
Cooper's age is set in the forty to fifty years old range, which is exactly the range with the largest number of male actors in the whole of Hollywood - or the largest range of male actors in their prime, so why should they ignore that? Countless actors of the right age, choose a young man who has not yet reached the age of twenty-four
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Before, when contacting Andy, Christopher did show great interest.
Because of his directing style, he is accustomed to inviting actors with solid acting skills, especially male actors, Christian Bale is one that he personally admires very much; moreover, he is a character who hates huge changes, if Christian Bale - If Bell wants to, he can use Christian as the male protagonist in every work, unfortunately, the latter's schedule is full and there is no time at all.
For Renly, Christopher's vague impression is that praise and affirmation abound.
Therefore, Christopher naturally raised his hands to welcome; but after learning that Renly was looking forward to playing the role of Cooper, and Emma Thomas, his wife who served as the producer of each of Christopher's works, also emphasized that with Renly's current performance Status and worth, it is very uneconomical to play a supporting role, unless it is a role like the clown, which also makes Christopher more and more uninterested.
Still, Christopher opened up to the possibility, and with Renly's proactive push, agreed to meet today.
But in the absence of any hope, Christopher had the first curiosity in his mind: What would it be like if Renly played Cooper
Involuntarily, Christopher ignored the shackles of age and constructed in his mind the texture of Renly appearing in the picture. The maturity and wisdom gave the character a fuller color, which seemed to be seamlessly connected with the plot. This is really true. A unique feeling.
"If you were to play Cooper, do you have any special ideas?" Christopher was a little curious.
Again, Renly's answer was a surprise, "No, no idea."
Christopher frowned slightly, but it was not irritability or anger, but curiosity. From the conversation just now, he was 100% sure that this was not normal. "You don't look like a person without any thoughts."
Renly couldn't help laughing cheerfully, "In my opinion, Cooper is a special character, his story, his growth and his character are almost completely stripped away in the film, all the weight falls on His bond with his two children, especially his relationship with Murphy, has become his only image focus."
"It also means that what the movie needs to present is an emotion, not an image. Then, for an actor, we should focus on expressing his emotional details and layers, rather than exploring the ins and outs of the character." Renly said Possibly stated in a simple and obvious way—
In fact, it can be summed up as follows: actors should choose expressive acting, not method acting. This was the case with Matthew McConaughey in the last life, but his expressive acting skills needed to be shown by relying on small details, and he was accidentally swallowed up by the grandeur of the picture.
"What?" Christopher was completely dizzy, every word and every sound was not difficult, but after connecting it all together, he couldn't understand a word, "You mean, Cooper's role is too thin already?"
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"That's right." Renly nodded affirmatively. "You can recall that in Cooper's role, why did NASA have to choose him to rejoin the operation? Why did he choose to retire before? Why did he The emotional bond with his children is so deep? Why is he able to be the leader of the team? Also, what does his attitude and personality mean when he encounters a crisis situation?"
"..." Christopher was about to open his mouth to retort, but Renly stopped him with a smile and continued.
"Indeed, what I just said was briefly mentioned in the script. But it was just a short sentence without any practical significance."
"How to explain this? Simply put, the words that introduced Cooper cannot be connected in the subsequent language, behavior, and attitude. From the perspective of the play's creation, these background materials are just background. , is separated from the character itself, which also makes the character itself like a piece of paper."
"In other words, the script doesn't actually give the actors room to stand and play, it just needs the actors to show a state."
After Renly said all the words in one go, he took a breath and said again, "But for commercial films, this is the correct way to create."
"Because of the character image of commercial films, what the audience needs to see is a personal profile. For example, the ability and wisdom of Hobbs in 'Fast and Furious', and the transformation of Cage in 'Edge of Tomorrow', That's enough, too many branches just spoil the narrative rhythm and storyline."
"Similarly, in this film, the audience only needs to see the bond between Cooper and Murphy, and this is successful, because this bond and the entanglement of time are the core theme of the film, not Cooper's personal story. ."
Christopher pondered seriously for a moment, neither agreeing nor disapproving, "You still haven't answered my first question: If you were to play Cooper, do you have any special ideas?"
"No, no." Renly repeated his answer. "Or, for the director's answer, no. I just need the emotions and emotions you expect, and I can show them. That's all."
"So, what's the answer to the actor?" Christopher is also a smart guy, and like Jonathan Nolan, he's also an excellent screenwriter. In fact, Christopher is better at directing his own scripts because he is able to incorporate his own ideas and sense of imagery into the storyline.
Renly laughed, "Does that matter?"
Christopher didn't speak, still staring intently at Renly, not giving in an inch.
Renly spread his hands, "As for the actor's answer, I hope to be able to build their own memories and stories with the actors who play Murphy and Tom."
"For example, what happened to their mother? For example, is Cooper's choice to retire related to the children? For example, their daily life? For example, Cooper and Murphy's strong bond, Cooper and Tom. differences?" Renly gave a brief example, no deep conversation, but enough for Christopher.
"I always think that even in commercial films, 007 or Ethan Hunt, they have their own images and characters, and although there is no way to show them in the movie story, they are all living characters. Actors in the performance process, Whether those background stories are real or not is very important." Renly told his thoughts completely, "I know that these contents will not appear in the movie screen, and it doesn't even matter that the writer and director don't know, but… "
"The quality of the performance is different." Christopher took over, and then saw the look of surprise in Renly's eyes, he smiled smugly, "I couldn't understand Heath when I was on set before. The way he acted, he almost drove himself crazy, really became a clown, and I tried to stop Heath, but Christian explained it to me. That quality of performance is the soul of an actor's performance."
After speaking, Christopher's smile became a little lonely: the death of Heath Ledger has always been a regret for Christopher.
But the look was fleeting, and Christopher said, "I now finally understand the meaning of the conversation just now."
Regarding the meaning of emotion and time, and the discussion of philosophical speculation, in fact, these things are not visible in the script, and their existence will not affect the entire narrative rhythm, but is revealed in the director's picture and the actor's performance. Yes, he doesn't need to worry about stuffing this stuff, possibly breaking the rhythm of the movie—
Not only will it not be so, but it will enhance the depth and breadth of the film.
Thinking of this, Christopher's eyes lit up slightly, "Renly, are you willing to play the role of Cooper?"